[Oh boy, her very favourite conversational topic: Jamie. She smiles and settles in for the story time.]

He's younger than me, but not by much. He's -- my best friend and my partner in crime in every way. [Every way.] He's witty and sweet and a little too trusting and he uses humour as a defense mechanism. [Like you don't, Mae? Who'd he pick it up from?]

He's as much against physical exercise as I am, though we like - we do this thing, it's a game. We call it where did you learn how to dance.